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Musnad Ahmad 1257

What is this? They said: She committed zina, and Umar ordered that she be stoned, Ali took her from them and sent them back. They went back to Umar (رضي الله عنه) who said: Why have you come back?

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حَدَّثَنَا عَفَّانُ، حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادٌ، عَنْ عَطَاءِ بْنِ السَّائِبِ، عَنْ أَبِي ظَبْيَانَ الْجَنْبِيِّ، أَنَّ عُمَرَ بْنَ الْخَطَّابِ

رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ أُتِيَ بِامْرَأَةٍ قَدْ زَنَتْ فَأَمَرَ بِرَجْمِهَا فَذَهَبُوا بِهَا لِيَرْجُمُوهَا فَلَقِيَهُمْ عَلِيٌّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ فَقَالَ: مَا هَذِهِ قَالُوا زَنَتْ فَأَمَرَ عُمَرُ بِرَجْمِهَا فَانْتَزَعَهَا عَلِيٌّ مِنْ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَرَدَّهُمْ فَرَجَعُوا إِلَى عُمَرَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ فَقَالَ: مَا رَدَّكُمْ قَالُوا رَدَّنَا عَلِيٌّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ قَالَ: مَا فَعَلَ هَذَا عَلِيٌّ إِلَّا لِشَيْءٍ قَدْ عَلِمَهُ فَأَرْسَلَ إِلَى عَلِيٍّ فَجَاءَ وَهُوَ شِبْهُ الْمُغْضَبِ فَقَالَ: مَا لَكَ رَدَدْتَ هَؤُلَاءِ قَالَ: أَمَا سَمِعْتَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ رُفِعَ الْقَلَمُ عَنْ ثَلَاثَةٍ عَنْ النَّائِمِ حَتَّى يَسْتَيْقِظَ وَعَنْ الصَّغِيرِ حَتَّى يَكْبَرَ وَعَنْ الْمُبْتَلَى حَتَّى يَعْقِلَ قَالَ: بَلَى قَالَ عَلِيٌّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ فَإِنَّ هَذِهِ مُبْتَلَاةُ بَنِي فُلَانٍ فَلَعَلَّهُ أَتَاهَا وَهُوَ بِهَا فَقَالَ عُمَرُ لَا أَدْرِي قَالَ وَأَنَا لَا أَدْرِي فَلَمْ يَرْجُمْهَا

What is this? They said: She committed zina, and Umar ordered that she be stoned, Ali took her from them and sent them back. They went back to Umar (رضي الله عنه) who said: Why have you come back?

They said: Ali (رضي الله عنه) sent us back. He said: Ali has only done this because of something he knows. So he sent for Ali who was somewhat angry. He said: Why did you send these people back?

He said: Didn’t you hear the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) say: “The Pen has been lifted from three: from the sleeper until he wakes up, from the minor until he grows up and from the insane until he comes to his senses.”

Umar said: Yes I did. Ali (رضي الله عنه) said: This is the insane woman of the tribe of Banu so and so, Perhaps he came to her when she was in that state. ʻUmar (رضي الله عنه) said: I do not know. He said: And I do not know. And he did not stone her.

Musnad Ahmad 1257, Book 5, Musnad 'Ali Ibn Abi Talib, Hadith 729. 1 min read

The chain

Who passed it on, from Imam Ahmad back to the one who was there.

  1. 1Imam AhmadCompiler, died 241 AH
  2. 2Affan ibn MuslimTold us, Fourth generation, died 219 AH
  3. 3Hammad ibn SalamahTold us, Third generation, died 167 AH
  4. 4Ata ibn as-SaibFrom, Successor, died 133 AH
  5. 5Husayn ibn JundubFrom, Successor, died 89 AH
  6. 6Umar ibn al-KhattabThat, Companion, died 23 AH

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